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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

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  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  Coded Logic

  I'm NOT agnostic about unicorns, ferries, world ending prophecies or gods. I'm an anti-unicornist, anti-ferriest, and anti-theist.

  I believe they're all made up nonsense. That is to say, I think they belong in ferry tales and children's books and don't exist - nor are a part of - our reality.

  What's my rational? What's my evidence you ask? Well, it's very simple: Things for which there is no evidence and things which don't exist - are categorically identical. There is no way to tell the difference between the two. And indeed there's no good reason to think there is a difference between the two.

  Or, if I may boil all this down into a single pithy phrase, having no good reason to believe something is at least one good reason NOT to believe it.
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  Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate

  by Whynot in

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  did anyone else watch the bill nye versus ken ham debate?

  it happened february 4, 2014 and just watched it a few months ago.

  i thought it was interesting but must confess that i felt extremely embarrassed for ken ham.

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  Bill Nye has a stellar reputation of accurately representing the truth and honesty. When Ken Ham was asked what would change his mind he said "nothing". When Bill Nye was asked he said, "Evidence".

  This is all the difference in the world. And this the kind of intellectual honest and rigor we need right now. Not more fundamentalist Christian asshattery.
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  There must be a moral law giver, right? Man cannot agree on morals amongst themselves

  There must be a health giver, right? Man cannot agree on health amongst themselves . . .

  There must be a language giver, right? Man cannot agree on language amongst themselves . . .

  There must be a blue/gold dress giver right? Man cannot agree on blue or gold amongst theselves . . .

  If a concept is not well defined - or is in dispute - then the solution is to either better define the concept or is to bring evidence to the table. It's NOT to make vague appeals to an authority.

  Stop being so intellectually lazy Perry.
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  Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate

  by Whynot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  did anyone else watch the bill nye versus ken ham debate?

  it happened february 4, 2014 and just watched it a few months ago.

  i thought it was interesting but must confess that i felt extremely embarrassed for ken ham.

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  "sold out" . . . "globalist puppet"

  Bill Nye has a very long and well documented history of standing up for the things he believes in. The things he's advocating for today are the same things he's been advocating for the past 30 years ago.

  Don't listen to the haters. The only reason they don't like Nye is because they don't want to have to change their behavior. They don't want to be reminded all the time that they are polluting and destroying our planet and completely ruining our kids futures.
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  Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate

  by Whynot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  did anyone else watch the bill nye versus ken ham debate?

  it happened february 4, 2014 and just watched it a few months ago.

  i thought it was interesting but must confess that i felt extremely embarrassed for ken ham.

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  Bill Nye is a science educator. Not a scientist. Throwing shade at him because he doesn't have his Masters in the sciences is ABSURD.

  More importantly, we define a scientist as someone who conducts research and publishes scientific findings. NOT as someone who has a degree in science.

  For example, Albert Einstein didn't have a degree in science - but he was still a scientist.

  Bill Nye is an amazing Engineer who helped design parts of the Boeing 747, is an active member of the Planetary Society, and holds at least three US patents for his personal designs. Don't listen to the haters. Bill Nye is more the capable of taking on an idiot like Ken Ham.
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  Coded Logic

  Perry -

  Do you believe that God actually caused a global flood that killed off most of mankind?
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  Coded Logic

  I never understood the concept of "universal sovereignty" either.

  If one believes the accounts of the Old Testament - it's not exactly like God stepped back and allowed mankind to rule himself. Quite to the contrary, he was constantly meddling in the worst possible way. For example,

  • God cursed the ground so man would have a hard time growing food.
  • Introduced disease and suffering to mankind.
  • Made pregnancy and birth a dangerous and painful affair.
  • Drowned almost every human on the planet in a global flood.
  • Scattered everyone across the globe and confused our languages so we couldn't work together.
  • Had a "choosen people" that he ordered to commit genocide against all the nations around them.
  • And visited a host of plagues, famines, pests, earthquakes, and sulfur and brimstone attacks all along the way.

  . . . talk about stacking the deck against humanity. Maybe if Jaweh had stopped being a total dick for a second humanity might have done okay.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

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  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  I've... met very few people who fit that description.
  

  And I've been around.

  Good catch Vidiot! Didn't even think about that.

  I suppose if I were at a Star Trek convention I could get away with saying something along the lines of "We all have an innate desire to better understand the mind of Gene Roddenberry." However, out in the general public, hardly anyone knows who Gene Roddenberry is - much less cares about his futurist musings.

  Likewise, outside of a small percentage of people deeply interested in philosophy and anthropology, very few of us spend anytime at all pondering the deeper implications of our existence. And if a god wanted to give humans an "innate desire to understand the meaning and purpose of life" then I'd say that god did a piss poor job of it.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  Similarly, the Bible correctly describes the shape of the earth as a “sphere,” or “globe.”

  Actually, it doesn't. Isaiah uses the Hebrew word Chug to describe the Earth - which means circle - a flat two dimensional object. Had Isaiah wished to describe the Earth as a sphere he would have used the Hebrew word Dur (see Isaiah 22:18) which means sphere or globe.

  the Bible says that God is “suspending the earth upon nothing.”

  The Bible also says the Earth is supported by pillars (I Samuel 2:8, Job 9:6, and Psalm 75:3). As well as claiming that the Earth has a "chief cornerstone" and "four corners" (Job 38:6, Isaiah 11:12, and Revelation 7:1).

  
  

  It doesn't go unnoticed that you've cherry picked the scriptures you think are supported by modern science while ignoring all the scriptures that blatantly contradicted science. We have a term for people who engage in this sort of rhetoric - we call them dishonest.

  
  
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  Eye-brow Wigs ... are a thing?

  by Simon in

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  ... and apparently justin trudeau wears them.

  also, they can come off or slip down while you are doing a press-conference to a global audience.

  what a god awful embarrassment this fool is, he should stick to his indian costume dress-up and dancing routine.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g46km4da3yw.

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  Coded Logic

  Simon and the Watchtower have a lot in common. If they don't like a conclusion they attack the person or institution making the claim instead of addressing the claim itself. And instead of providing facts to support the claims they make - they simply resort to disparaging the motives of anyone who disagrees with them.

  It's a cheap and dishonest move. And one that needs to be called out more often on theses forums.